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2010-01-05

Yes, really!

Relative to Noah being 600-years-old when the flood began, Genesis 8:13 says the land was dry after 1 year, 1 month, and 1 day, but the very next verse says that the land was dry after 1 year, 2 months, and 27 days. This is back-to-back text we're talking about here, and the verses don't even use the confusing wording that most of the story has so far. Verse 13 gives a length of time, and 14 gives a different length of time. Surely, now biblical literalists will see that there is a contradiction in the bible, thereby demonstrating that it is not infallible? Right? I mean, there's no way they could weasel their way out of this one... right?

WRONG! Here's a site that does just that. They claim that in Genesis 8:13 it was Noah who deemed the Earth was dry, but in Genesis 8:14 it was God who declared that the Earth was dry, and God trumps Noah. I can only assume they are implying that Noah was simply mistaken. Perhaps Noah saw that the local area was dry, but God, with his omniscience, knew there were small pockets of unevaporated water elsewhere that Noah may accidentally trip in and drown, or something. Who cares?

Now we have that small matter of where did the water go? Scientists have a good idea of how much water is on Earth (1,360,000,000 km≥) and where it is. The total amount is no where near enough to cover the Earth past the tallest mountains, so we have to assume (if we first assume that the flood really happened) that the flood waters mysteriously vanished. Did God magic the water away by casting mass teleport? Did he suck it up with a giant divine straw? Did he change the water into a giant ice football and Hail Mary it into the sun? Get it? Hail Mary? Because it's a religious term?

 

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just me writes:

 

I think he used a tweaked Stargate or maybe a Super-gate to get all the water around :D

Laura writes:

 

I think they ment there was only so much water left and they no longer needed the boat... Or some one is trying to send a message like Time travle codes! (I have a big imagination and eat sugary sweets most of the times.) Well didn't the scienc chanel say that we lost a lot of water into the atmosphere or was I high?

Laura writes:

 

@The All Mighty Guru: Nah but I got the crap scared out of me thanks to some new fire work that sounds exactly like gun shots, kids were setting them off like crazy. At one point one was set off next to a police car and I hit the deck... Not a good idea seeing as how the entire place has cement. Oww my nose! Well tacos are good but I preffer Morelanos. They taste good! a mini meat taco with soft shell and they are so good! the tortilla is made red with spices while the meat is seasoned to pure soft deliciousness! You guys need to eat to love it!

Mr-know-it-all writes:

 

Maybe it started raining again? Like in that movie when YHWH suddenly decides "hey, I'm going to kill you all after all. Bye!", and Noah, instead of offering sacrifices or begging mercy, starts whistling. YHWH asks what he's doing and Noah says something to the effect of "I'm not worthy of begging you so I whisper" and that touches YHWH and he calls off the storm.

Ray writes:

 

Once again, the Bible contradicts itself. You would think the people who made it just made seperate parts in different languages, then translated them into 1 language & put it together.

Honestly, perhaps we should change the name's of God & Noah to Captain Oblivious & Captain Oblivious #2.

TBman256 writes:

 

or maybe the asgard got rid of it.

Winterset writes:

 

Umm... You know I'm all for finding stupid crap in that silly book, but bad phrasing does not a contradiction make. If I tell it you the sun was up at 7:20am this morning and then tell you the sun was up at 8:40am this morning, am I contradicting myself? No, I'm being stupid as hell for telling you the sun didn't magically set at a goofy time but I'm not contradicting myself.

The land was dry after 1 year, 1 month and 1 day. Hell, maybe it was dry after 6 months but they just didn't notice it. Or at least didn't mention it. Who knows (or cares)? Now if the original text said it became dry at 1 year, 1 month and 1 day and then said it became dry at a later date it would certain be a contradiction, but from what I've read and what you said, it only says it *was* dry, not that it became dry. Extremely stupid wording and the second verse is useless. That's not a contradiction, though.

TheAlmightyGuru writes:

 

I enjoy picking nits, so here's the original KJV text:

"8:13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry. 8:14 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried."

Relative to Noah being 600-years-old at the beginning of the flood, the verses say:

8:13 - 1y, 1m, 1d, had past until, "the ground was dry".

8:14 - 1y, 2m, 27d, had past until "the earth dried".

Granted, they're not using 100% identical wording, but they're incredibly close.

However, to play my own devil's advocate, 8:13 says the "face" of the ground. It's possible that when the authors say "face", they're implying the "forefront" or "tops" of the mountains. Of course, that would imply that a 9 km deep global ocean dried up in 56 days. But, if God is teleporting the water away, it wouldn't mater how impossible it is.

Winterset writes:

 

Naw, it's the tense that gives it away. Both are past tense and indicate a becoming as opposed to ongoing state. That would agree with your premise that they're contradictory.

I'd still have to wonder what the original, pre-translated text said, though, since King James was a psychotic freak who like to torture women. His "version" is not remotely what I'd go by if I were delusional.. I mean faithful.

Katy writes:

 

I wonder - maybe the first verse meant the water was gone and the 2nd meant things were actually *dry* ... 'cause it would take awhile for the mud to dry up, right? *shrug*

989fox989 writes:

 

What is the bibles definition of "dry" anyways? It seems like the entire earth couldn't be dry because there should still be Oceans, rivers, swamps etc. floating around.

Xmask writes:

 

www.xkcd.com/53/


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